Hey guys coming back to point we are notsayin that her fight 4 kara is wrong. Every sikh n mind it proper sikh has a right to do so. According to me proper sikh is the one who will follow his religion. Not jus one or 2 but the religion as a whole... There is more than jus name in her case. If it would have been a proper guru ka sikh the things would have been different. I simply dont understand u say that every1 has flaws...ths what u said. i agree everyone has it but this doesnt mean that one should continue commitin the mistakes n be an example of flaws. If we are wrong somewr then we should correct ourselves rather than jus pointing at others that all have flaws. we are not here to jus pin point we really want that if we have some flawas n we are not followin our sikhi properly then we should start working on it n be a proper guru ka sikh n set examples 4 all. My voice is not against this firl but against her so called sikhi..if shez not following it properly then do u think she sholud be called a sikh?? its not 4 me its 4 u to answer....D o u really think that she should continue like this...... then i guess u r not a true sikh my friend.

Aman Raja, to a debate you respond with insults! The issue is not one of support, we should not just support anything and everything, we should consider all the issues. We do not judge, that is our Lord to do. We do not condem, that is for our Lord to do. What we do is to duscuss, with all our might. We do not point fingers YOU do! Our faith tells us that we should consider all things and exercise comapasion and undertsaning, but that we should also use our brains. It was Guru Gobind Singh Ji who named us all in creating the Khalsa, it was not me or you or anybody else. We should instruct our children to see the world around them and the consider the things they do and support in the confines of our faith. That means that we ask them to understand the basis of our faith. The plain fact is that Sarika "Singh" is wrong, it is contrary to the commands of our Guru. She should be Sarika Kaur-Watkins. I would suggest that you engage in the debate rather than throw insults - that is what our Guru's teach us!

I think you miss the point here; the question is not whether she chooses to wear the Kara or whether a male should be allowed to wear a turban. The question is where does it stop. As a society, we must exercise restraint in all matters, as a culture we must show our children and through them others who they are and as a faith we must be true. In all the teachings of our guru’s, restraint and tolerance is preferred to hot headedness. Seeing the big picture is our role as parents, not to politicise them before they have the maturity to deal with such matters. Our rights have been borne out of struggle, but they are not unassailable. The rights we win apply to everybody, not just to us Sikhs, they are not free, but are the product of the good things we do. I note you mention the Turban, in that respect, you will appreciate that it was Winston Churchill who came to the assistance of the Sikhs to wear the Turban for their brave and gallant sacrifice in the First World War. History and our faith reward us for the good we do, the restraint we exercise and the counsel we give to our children. Remember, it is they that will take our faith forward. I agree that in some matters a stand need to be taken, but in others compromise is a better goal. Which side we fall should be a decision of us all, hence my contribution. The issue of the Turban is raised but I note that the question I put regarding the Kirpan is not dealt with. Is it right that a child or an adult in the workplace has an unassailable right to wear a Kirpan? What then of the BNP supporter. The Kirpan is allowed for adults under clothing, which is a compromise that adults have made, it does not offend against their expression of faith. You see, when the argument is advanced on the basis that to wear one item is unassailable then all items of faith are to be treated the same. What then of the consequences. What would be your view if a child was injured or god forbid killed by a Kirpan, either by the wearer or by somebody else who had wrested from him. What if the child was yours, would that be the unassailable view that you have. There is no absolute answer to the rhetorical question posed, the answer is in reality that we must think carefully where we are going and the path we travel. The school or the workplace are not the places for these matters, it is the home. I grew up in the UK, having been born here. I did not wear the 5 K’s as a child (although I wear some of them now). I am no less a Sikh for it. I learnt from my father the meaning of hard work, honesty, compromise and honour (that is to be proud of who I am and my heritage). I learnt from my mother the meaning of struggle and love and I learnt from those around me the meaning of my faith and belonging. All this in a time when racism was rampant in the inner cities of the West Midlands. I did not need to wear the 5 K’s to do this; I had the good counsel of my family and the direction of my Lord (Waheguru). My faith and heritage was not so fragile that I needed to have a Kara to remind me to do good things as my Lord commands of me; my upbringing reminded me of this. There are many inconsistencies with this girl’s stance, not least the adoption of the name Singh. Lest we forget, it was the command of Guru Gobind Singh Ji that joined the Khalsa with the common names. It does not matter that we use village names, but what we use should be used correctly. The adoption of the name Singh by this girl’s mother is wrong and contrary to the Guru’s command. What then of that as the outward expression of her faith. Balance, restraint and devotion to all others and above all matters to our Lord is what we should instil in our children. With that to carry them forward, they will not go wrong and they will stay within the faith. Contradiction will cause them to stray as they fail to be able to reconcile such contradictions. Let us not blindly walk in to a fanatics paradise

I can't believe that you are not supportive of Sarika because "her last name is not Kaur". Give me a break! You guys are so full of it! She is fighting for the right to wear a Kara! Thats it. She does not have to prove her religon or her commitment to you. She is fighting for a basic right. The right to religous freedom. This is exactly what our Gurus taught us. Tommorrow someone may not let your son or daughter to wear a Kara. This is a slippery slope my friends. All of us have flaws. Some don't keep the name Kaur and other like you are simply haters. Instead of supporting this young girl you are pointing fingers. Not very Sikh-like!

As my brother has rightly pointed above that she has made a fuss out of it.. If it had been a issue with pure sikh then the matter would have been severe n completely different as compared to this girl. The reasons 4 my saying so are firstly her name which speaks 4 herself. She is not using the word kaur in her name; either shez ashamed ofit beeing used in the name or she has not been properly educated in this regard. It clearly shows what values are beeing given by her parents. Secondly if she is talkin bout one of the k's of sikhi then is she really carrying out the remaining 4 k's??? Where are ur hairs sarika? where is the kanga?? where is the kirpan?? um afraid people like these have become a mockery at our religion n they should not be given sympathy coz they simply dont deserve...THEY ARE NOT A PART OF OUR RELIGION....

As my brother has rightly pointed above that she has made a fuss out of it.. If it had been a issue with pure sikh then the matter would have been severe n completely different as compared to this girl. The reasons 4 my saying so are firstly her name which speaks 4 herself. She is not using the word kaur in her name; either shez ashamed ofit beeing used in the name or she has not been properly educated in this regard. It clearly shows what values are beeing given by her parents. Secondly if she is talkin bout one of the k's of sikhi then is she really carrying out the remaining 4 k's??? Where are ur hairs sarika? where is the kanga?? where is the kirpan?? um afraid people like these have become a mockery at our religion n they should not be given sympathy coz they simply dont deserve...THEY ARE NOT A PART OF OUR RELIGION....

I find that this whole issue is in many ways blown out of all proportion. That each of us sikhs, should have the freedom to practice our religous beliefs, as should others goes without saying. That each of us should be able to wear apparel which denotes our faith is a more complex argument. Almost all religions have religous apparel which denotes who they are. I can accept that a beliver who has taken Amrit, will hold this are absolutely important, but those of us who have not, which included Sarika make all sorts of compromises in our lives which do not denote our faith. Sarika Singh, well the name should speak for itself. The word Singh denotes the male of the faith. She should be called Sarika Kaur. It is anoying and a dimunition of the faith when females refer to themselves as "Singh". If that is an exporession of her faith, then she is sadly wrong. Perhaps she should reflect on this before taking the high ground. Perhaps those in support should also reflect on this also. Is is going to be the next case that a BNP supprter who alledgedly converts to Sikhism (remember that he does not have to take Amrit to do so) will be allowed into a school with a Kirpan? I am all for the maintenance of faith, I am sikh myself, but it is about time that we stopped indoctrinating our children and useing them as the means for our own battlkes. This girls education has been materially affected. her ability to see the contradiction of her faith and her name has been impaired. What chance do es she have in life, when those around her do not have the good sense to counsel her properly. If she is so committed, then let her take Amrit and change her name. let us see her committment. For the sake of our faith, which is robust and beutiful, let us not taint it with squalbles, butas the Granth sahib says, consider the whole sangat.

Sarika Watkins-Singh, where is the Guru's gifted name "Kaur"? If we forget all other gifts from our Guru, the Kesh, the Rehit, the Amrit, then just fighting for one of them doesn't really make our point that strong. But, I believe we should still be supporting her.